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#655762 The Current Team 2013

Posted by Chicken-N-Raffls on 20 December 2013 - 11:22 PM

^^ Lol In the voice of James Earl Jones... C'mon man

 

Edit: that was for Toughfighter

alright what's your issue with me? what do you want me to say? this team is best team in the world, they will win a cup? what? what's your problem?

 

 

what do you want to hear? are you that fixated with these players that do nothing?

Alright, let's go down the list.

What's my issue with you? No matter what this team does, you will find something to complain about.

 

What do I want you to say? Nothing. We've all heard everything you have to say 50 times over. You're a broken record.

 

This team is the best, will win a cup. Despite how you try to pretend everyone else here is a bunch of fanboys, I haven't heard anyone say anything close to either of those things. You are the one who likes to make broad sweeping and over generalized statements like that.

 

What do I want to hear? Intelligent criticism and praise where either is due.

 

Am I that fixated on players that do nothing? No. I'm a fan of the Flyers. Some players I like more than others. Some I really enjoy, others I would like to see traded. Pretty simple. And I wouldn't call 5 goals in one period doing nothing. Maybe I'm just the glass half full type.

 

Everyone here is entitled to their opinion, whether anyone agrees or not, but the fact that you NEVER have anything good to say, coupled with your all encompassing statements like "we need faster players" or "this team is a bunch of goons" is why people call you a troll, whether or not you actually believe what you say. I've seen several people here respond to you in a reasonable and logical way, but when you continue with the same negativity and tired lines over and over, don't be surprised when people laugh you off and label you a troll.


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#657495 coburn

Posted by allamericandan1 on 23 June 2014 - 03:21 PM

No one loves Coburn like he is Pronger or Doughty. He used to be massively hyped, but now I find most fans are indifferent. Right now he is the Flyers 2nd best defender. The Flyers do need more point producers (especially after Timonen is gone) but Schenn, and Grossmann, Streit, and MacDonald need to go before Coburn. I don't know why he is singled out over those disasters.

 

Fixed.


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#655770 The Current Team 2013

Posted by Frostythekroman on 21 December 2013 - 01:47 PM

i havent anything good to say because this team never plays right despite the wins,  im pointing out the mistakes they are constantly making, if that doesnt get corrected then this team will never win anything, you seem to ignore it and focus on the postives rather worry about the mistakes.

 

im a realist fan, im not guy that's going to jump for joy whenever start waking up in one period, it's unacceptable. you cant play like that. it's 60 minutes, i expect this team to play hard for sixthy minutes every game, not one period.

 

i dont understand how any fan can accept that type of style of playing, it's more like dont care about mistakes, winning is all that matters, but when you play a team like chicago or dallas, it will be a disaster.

Winning is all that matters, Can't hoist the cup without winning. I nver saw the last place team get handed the biggest trophy. "Oh you played hard but lost so here is the Stanley Cup.  A win is a win- in the end, in history all we will see is the win-loss record. No one ill say oh they won the cup but didn't play hard so in essence they didn't win, the team that lost did.

And dude you aren't a realist- you are a pessimist. I don't understand why pessimists think they are "realists". The Flyers could win every game from here on out minus one, hoist the cup and you would be on here trolling about that one loss along the way. Here is reality, and it may be a shock- ITS A FRIGGIN GAME! Wins will happen, losses will happen, bad bounces will happen, lazy nights will happen, all-star caliber play will happen, injuries will happen... and here is the ultimate reality- YOU (and anyone else in here including me) CAN"T CHANGE A THING ABOUT THAT (whether pessimist or optimist)!


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#655263 The Current Team 2013

Posted by pat-1 on 24 November 2013 - 01:12 PM

please stop feeding the troll.....

 

it may go look for food elsewhere ;)


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#644109 The Official Fire Homer Thread

Posted by laxgrl2PA-c on 12 June 2012 - 07:13 AM

"When you've got Dean and you've got Hexy, the philosophy will be close to the Flyers," Gagne told NHL.com during the Final. "They like the way the Flyers play, what they put on the ice every season, season after season, and the team having a chance to do something good in the playoffs every year. I think it's a good model. We all know it's been awhile since (the Flyers) won, but they are always one of the top teams.

"Dean and Hexy may not be doing the exact same thing (in L.A.), but they have taken pieces from it to help this team."

The basis of the Flyers' model that Lombardi clearly copied has more to do with developing a winning culture more than anything else. He gained an appreciation of the model by getting inside the mind of ex-Flyers' general manager and Hall of Fame player Bob Clarke during his three-year stint as Philadelphia's chief scout for the Western Conference.

"Sitting in his office was a great education," Lombardi said. "Every third word to come out of his mouth is 'team.' If you ever want to see venom come out of his mouth, just talk about something that is selfish. There is nothing that irritates him more than selfishness. It's pure anger."

Lombardi is getting to be the same way -- one Stanley Cup won't change him.

"When you have a culture, it transcends generations," Lombardi said. "It's passed on and everybody feels it."

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=634032

I don't usually bump threads like this, but I think it's really time for a change. If Holmgren wanted to "change the culture" of the locker room in Philly, it should have started with himself. He hasn't changed anything other than the players that wear orange and black. Attitude and winning are contagious. LA said they knew they were going for the cup when they picked up Richards and the mindset all year has probably been focused on that. Richards said the Kings were the closest team that he's ever been a part of (go ahead and take shots at him instead of the take away point). I don't think it's coincidence that Lombardi is so team focused and he has produced a close knit group that wanted to play for each other and would take nothing less than a cup.
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#655194 The Current Team 2013

Posted by Legion-of-Gloom on 19 November 2013 - 06:16 PM

Pens don't have the best closer in the league.

But they do have the best Hoser

 

I think Couts finally gets a goal tonight


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#654906 The Official Fire Homer Thread

Posted by allamericandan1 on 08 November 2013 - 12:44 AM

Well, you got rid of the "cancers"...

You got rid of the coach...

Who else is left?

Paul Holmgren took a team that was a legitimate Stanley Cup contender and destroyed it. This is the reality of undervaluing the young players and draft picks. Using them as sweeteners to unload bad contracts. This is the reality of an unnecessary firesale and keeping old players in the twilight of their careers.

If someone drives your car off the road, you don't give them back the keys.

No more excuses, no more half measures....enough is enough.

Fire Holmgren, now!
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#654844 The Current Team 2013

Posted by DA-42 on 05 November 2013 - 10:40 PM

The image of Steve Mason kneeling slumped with his head leaning against the post after the tying goal will remain with me for quite some time. I'm not sure I've ever seen someone deserve a win so much and be robbed of it. We just lose due to a comedy of errors. Grossmann mysteriously icing the puck with no pressure and tons of room to skate, Giroux deciding not to cover anyone in front of the net, and Streit trying to deke into the zone as the last man back leading to the game winner. There really are no words. This team is worse than 2006-07 until they prove otherwise.


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#654571 The Current Team 2013

Posted by pat-1 on 27 October 2013 - 08:28 AM

rangers and islanders are not good, they are lucky to win those but when we play really good teams, that's when what we see what this team is, so let's not get ahead of ourselves, the flyers are still not a solid team, this is an up and down team, i dont believe this is a playoff team.

The Islanders are a good team, a very good team.

 

The Flyers are playing a lot better since the week off. The fowards are staying back to help the dmen get the puck out of the zone, they are playing with a lot more energy, last night in the 3rd they were playing to win instead of playing not to lose. Lecavalier had a huge game...that confidence will roll off to Giroux hopefully and get him going. The PP still needs work, but it will get there in time. The PK stifled the Islanders league best PP.

 

How can you miss all these positives and say they are not a playoff team when its still October ?


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#654357 The Official Fire Homer Thread

Posted by pat-1 on 13 October 2013 - 08:12 AM

Dont get your hopes up, homer is not going anywhere until at least the end of the season.... And i love how you all want hextall, how do you know he will be any better.... He has yet to be a GM.... All he has been is an assistant... Not saying i don't think there shouldn't be a change there should be.... But keep that in mind

Well, for one, Hextall was assistant to a GM who's team won a Cup in recent times. A team that was built the way teams need to be built in the present.

 

Holmgren was assistant to a dinosaur who was lost in the past and has no idea what it takes to win, even though he does know how to keep the suckers buying tickets,

 

Anyway, WHOEVER is the GM in the near future is pretty much screwed anyway. This team is loaded with deadwood with big contracts for many years and possibly the worst farm system in the league.

 

Its going to be a long time before the Flyers return to their former glory.....hope I'm still around to see it.


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#654167 The Current Team 2013

Posted by pat-1 on 06 October 2013 - 02:54 PM

@Pat & Latent - this team has the potential to be pretty good.

 

But many people see the same problems from previous year(s). Players have come and gone, the problems remain. Yes, sometimes it's a lack of effort, but if the system is not tailored for the specific qualities you have at your disposal, it's not necessarily the players' fault. Yes, it's only the start of the season, but you have to admit it's like they pick up where they left off last season (sort of, cause they played pretty well the last 2-3 games of that season or maybe their opponents were already thinking about the playoffs).

 

If this was just a slow start, I wouldn't worry. But it's the same thing we've seen many times before. I'm sure they'll win tonight, against Carolina, playing with a lot of energy. But I'm willing to bet they don't win 3 games in a row.

If what your saying is we have the wrong players for our coach or the wrong coach for our players...I agree 100%.

 

This would be a great team if Hitch was still the coach, maybe even with Stevens..lol. As I said before , I don't like Lavy and never really did, but Holmgren hasn't supplied him with the players he needs for his style to be successful.


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#654160 The Current Team 2013

Posted by LatentC on 06 October 2013 - 01:47 PM

lets be real here, this is not a good team here, homer took talented players carter and richards and traded them for goons and not goal scorers, simmounds and hartnell are rinaldo on skates that takes penaltys and cant score, i might add schenn into that as well, giroux is not a top line guy, he's a third line player at best, jake is a speed guy but cant score.

 

From those 2 trades we received Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, Couturier, and Voracek. Simmer is the only one there who is noted for his physical play but is definitely not just a "goon" like you claim. Settle down before you post and think things through before you type. Yes, this season has gotten off to a disappointing start but it's only 2 games for godsakes. Let's save the "sky is falling" posts 'til a bit closer to Thanksgiving or Christmas, kk? 

 

And Giroux is a "third line player at best"?! Clearly you're not watching any of these games considering how G is, by far, the best player on our team.

 

Words on deaf ears, etc. Let's at least be patient and see the rest of the first 10 games before we levy any sort of decision regarding Lavi, Homer, or the state of the team. We all know we've lost the first 2 games due to poor systems and defensive shortcomings. But, as always, it's up to the players to redeem themselves. Lavi can hoot and holler all he wants, but ultimately it's up to the players themselves to get the job done.

 

:ph34r: 


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#652919 The Official Fire Homer Thread

Posted by Flyerfan52 on 12 June 2013 - 09:11 PM

Trading for Streit's UFA rights has me worried. We didn't give up anything worthwhile but the only way to skew this as a good thing is saying we traded a 4th rounder to clear a roster spot.

Crap! We're facing a 35+ contract for a good but not great defenseman. We have about 5 of those & prospects of more in the pipeline.

 

We have to get rid of Homer before he trades our remaining talent & picks for redundant players that will spend the rest of their career on LTIR. He missed all of 2010-11 with a shoulder injury so the history is there.

 

Mike Rathje should ring a bell.

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That stupidity merits bringing this back.


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#651821 The Official Fire Homer Thread

Posted by PenaltyKiller on 27 March 2013 - 06:47 PM

I just realized I started this thread. Awesome.


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#651417 The Official Fire Homer Thread

Posted by jdirksin on 10 March 2013 - 09:35 AM

Let the team stay together, put the Letingitin back in goal more often and lets get a top 5 draft pick this year.

 

The scouts are solid and should be able to help us restock the team with talent. And the Flyers Select J Druin....

 

Ps. if you are going to take a player #2 overall that you know needs time, give him time, don't trade him when he is ready to break out.


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#650649 The Official Fire Homer Thread

Posted by toughfighter83 on 17 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

homer has to be fired because he built this team the wrong way, these forwards are not big like new jersey, they are constantly getting run over every time, plus they are constantly passing, this team needs big player snipers, it's the only way to score, they are passing too much, i dont want to hear how many points these players have, i want to hear that they can score goals, if they cant score goals then these players have to go.

it's been 39 years, when is the accountability going to fall on the gm?
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#650485 The Official Fire Homer Thread

Posted by pwnstick on 12 February 2013 - 10:09 AM

I officially support this thread and will take it upon myself to ensure it doesn't slide down past the top 5 threads until this buffoon has be dethroned.
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#648781 The Official Fire Homer Thread

Posted by PenaltyKiller on 12 September 2012 - 04:54 PM

Why? Richards and Carter were never winning a cup here because they are both #$%^ ups. Neither one had a set of balls to lead anything which is why they did so well on the Kings. It worked out for them and the Kings but we don't know the future so saying that it backfired is pointless. Let's say the Kings never win another but the Flyers win two in the next three years, is that still considered a backfire?

Holmgren does what Snider wants him to do. You replace Holmgren with anyone and they are still doing Snider's bidding.

They went from Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Finals to unable to win a thing a year later? It's amusing people keep desperately clutching onto those straws. Whatever makes Homer and his supporters sleep better at night I guess.
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#647910 The Official Fire Homer Thread

Posted by pat-1 on 25 July 2012 - 07:54 AM

I agree. If after this next season is over and if either of these two do in fact have a sophmore slump then Homer needs to go. I'm a little torn between both sides right now. He tried to make the right moves but failed. I'm not knocking him for that.

There's always going to be the "should've, would've, could've" scenarios. I for one believe that he should've pushed a trade. Maybe he did, who really knows? We didn't get Weber, I got upset but oh well. Move on.

What it boils down to is this...the Flyers downfall last season was mainly the defence which wasn't helped by the superstar goalie who failed miserably.

You can't change the goalie, so you needed to fix the defence core. As of today, not only did not fix, he actually may have made it even weaker. There are very slim chances that he will be able to rectify this situation before the season starts.

I find this totally unacceptable, he needs to go. I'm not giving him any kudos for trying. I want him gone .
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#644168 The Official Fire Homer Thread

Posted by pat-1 on 12 June 2012 - 03:13 PM

Am I the only one who would still do these trades?  Yes, they won a cup.  Cool.  Does that mean we would have one if we didn't make the trades?  No.  These trades made us better, and in 2-3 years, this team is gonna be unreal.

I would have never made those trades and I still can't begin to understand how people find it acceptable that Holmgren rebuilt a team a season removed from being in the finals for the possibility that they might be good enough again 2 to 3 yrs from now.   :wacko:
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